Thursday, 03 December 2009
Dan Hemmens swears at a Booker Prize winner.
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So I did NaNo this year. I “won” again for whatever that's worth, and I'm a bit more enthused about this one than the last, although that doesn't mean it isn't shit.
NaNo periodically sends you pep-talks from “proper” published writers designed to keep you motivated and enthused throughout the month. These are mostly quite good, and mostly say exactly what you want to hear (“what you are doing here is functionally no different from what I do for a living”) and so they get you through the month and you finish. Awesome.
The post-NaNo wrap up, however, was from Peter Carey. He apparently won a booker prize once, and fucking hell doesn't he know it.
Okay, where to begin.
Oh yes. You smug fucking twat.
The first line gave me high hopes for the wrap-up. One of the things I love about NaNo is that it does genuinely good work to demistify writing, to challenge the destructive, classist myth that it's something only a Very Special Sort of Person can do.
But its okay! Because Peter Carey doesn't think that only Special People can write, just that only special people can write “at the highest levels”. Which means, of course, the level that he, personally writes at.
Notice the slippery slope here:
Writing is easy, it's something anybody can do.
Oh but writing well requires hard work.
Oh and writing really well requires a level of hard work and dedication that only special, special people have. And you either have it or you don't. It's utterly inborn, you can't change it or do anything about it. Either you're one of the Elect or you aren't. By the way, Peter Carey is part of the Elect.
This guy just emailed me to tell me I am not as special as he is and he expects me to find it inspiring. Wanker.
Oh by the way, if you think your writing is more important than your kids, that doesn't make you a serious writer, it makes you a fucking shitty parent. And if you want to do something important and beautiful and true then, well maybe I'm old fashioned but I actually think raising your kids properly is every bit as valuable as winning the Booker.
No, if you quietly, secretly want to be a genius, go the fuck away and grow the fuck up. Wanting to be a genius is a sure sign that you aren't one.
As for the final piece of advice “don't show them stuff you fear may not be right” - okay I'm going to use an appeal to authority here. I apologise. I have a friend from my university days who has, in fact, gone on to be an extremely successful children's author (although I suspect that this is what Mr Carey would consider writing at a “low level”). She has a tendency to be extremely self-effacing about her work, so much so that she only made it to print at all because a friend of hers stole the first three chapters of her book and showed them to her publisher. If she hadn't show nher friends “stuff she feared may not be right” she'd never have had anything published at all, and the world would have been denied some genuinely excellent novels.
On a less anecdotal, more general level, does Mr Carey really think that your average wannabe-novelist needs more of an excuse to avoid showing their work to people? Does he really think that what new writers need to be told is “remember, if your book isn't objectively perfect you should never show it to anybody because then you might suffer rejection.”
Seriously Pete, I get that you're insecure. That's screamingly obvious from the way you're jumping up and down to tell me how serious and awesome and dedicated you are. But I don't actually give a fuck.
And if you don't, you're not a serious writer. If you only rewrite every chapter nineteen times you're writing at a fundamentally lower level that Peter Carey. You should feel bad about yourself. But of course you should feel better about yourself than those poor schmucks who only rewrote seventeen times. Not that there's anything wrong with them. They're just at a lower level than you.
Aren't value judgements great.
After all what could you possibly learn about a culture from its single most significant cultural outlet. What could possibly be on TV? Just a bunch of stupid shows for stupid poor people. Proper writers don't watch television, only horrible people who drink lager and eat crisps watch television. Those people can't be writers. Those people are too busy getting ASBOs and being single parents and scrounging off benefits. But it's okay, because those people aren't important enough to read my books anyway. I only write serious books for serious people.
Fuck you.
Mark Haddon, who I'm sure I don't need to remind you (but might need to remind Mr Carey, who might unfortunately overlook lesser writers) wrote The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time said that he chose to write the book in the style of a murder mystery because that was the style of book his protagonist would have read. It was a notion he said he'd got from Jane Austen, who again wrote about people in precisely the medium that those people would have been most familiar with.
Real people watch television. If you think you can write something beautiful and true when you knowingly, deliberately and with an air of smug self-satisfaction cut yourself off from one of the most significant features in the lives of ordinary people then you are – not to put too fine a point on it – a moron. A stuck up moron.
It's a cheap shot I know, but I seem to recall that four hundred years ago the primary means of entertainment for the common man was a little thing called “theatre” and that a gentleman by the name of Shakespeare who I understand is quite famous did a lot of interesting work in that medium. But perhaps his work would have been better if he'd ignored popular entertainment and focused on reading books by dead people. In Latin.
Would it, by any chance, have anything to do with the antiquated, elitist mentality that the merits of a work of fiction are in inverse proportion to its accessibility? Would it have anything to do with the fact that reading books written by dead people in dead languages makes you feel cool and special, while watching TV shows that might have been written by anybody makes you feel ordinary? Might it be that actually choosing your reading list based on the idea that old = good makes you not only a wanker, but a culturally moribund wanker.
For every person I have met who reads classic literature because they love it, I have met a dozen who read it because they think it makes them look smart. Funnily enough, a lot of the latter sorts tend to be wannabe writers.
And they will tell them against the background of a cultural context I cannot access, and which I can only hope to misunderstand and oversimplify. If they are told in a language I cannot speak, then I can read them only in translation, in which case I am already at a remove from the text and would be better placed looking at something that is more directly accessible.
Oh, and to belabour the point a little more: you know what else I can find a lot of in languages I don't speak, telling stories I have never imagined about people like none I have ever known? Television shows.
And if you think you need to read books by dead people to hear stories you've never imagined, it's because you're a small minded little prick who's forgotten that there's a world past the end if your nose. Go watch a Bollywood movie – again I know it's painful, I know it's a lower level than you're used to, but it ticks all the boxes you're asking for. Language you don't speak? Check. Stories of people like none you've ever known. Check. Hell watch Anime. Listen to some fucking rap.
Or when you talk about “great stories” you could “never have imagined” are you only talking about books by dead white men?
Okay, back up a fucking second.
First off. Do you seriously stop reading a book to look up a word in a dictionary? You fucking prescriptivist moron. Dictionaries don't define words, context defines words. I know I've already played the Shakespeare card but guess what, he made up words.
Secondly if you equate “knowing the dictionary definitions of words” with “knowing what a story really means” then you are such a fucking idiot I can barely believe I am wasting my time complaining about you.
Firstly, “Goosebumps”? Does he think we are fucking twelve. If he does, does he think this is a remotely acceptable way to speak to a twelve year old? Or to anybody?
You smug fucking twat.
Secondly, you've just spent the past however much of my time telling me that there are “stories I never could have imagined” out there and what do you tell me my first step should be? One of those fucking awful self-help style books that get sold by the millions to wannabe-novelists (okay, I should add that I've not read “Reading Like a Writer” because, well, I don't like those sorts of books and the title alone makes me want to punch people)? Seriously? Couldn't you think of one of those stories I could never imagine? One single work of fiction that had actually fucking meant something to you, instead of being a stepping stone on your personal path to stardom?
If being a writer means buying into your smug, patronising, self-aggrandizing bullshit, Mr Carey, then not only do I have no desire to be one I have no desire to interact with anybody who does. This pathetic pile of insecure self-justifying shit doesn't just make me want to give up on writing, it makes me want to give up on reading because there is no way on God's green earth I want to be part of this man's narcissistic delusions.
NaNo periodically sends you pep-talks from “proper” published writers designed to keep you motivated and enthused throughout the month. These are mostly quite good, and mostly say exactly what you want to hear (“what you are doing here is functionally no different from what I do for a living”) and so they get you through the month and you finish. Awesome.
The post-NaNo wrap up, however, was from Peter Carey. He apparently won a booker prize once, and fucking hell doesn't he know it.
Dear Writer,
Writing is the easiest thing in the world. Anyone can do it. It's like hitting a tennis ball against a wall. It's like swimming. Anyone can learn. You don't have to be the best. You don't need to compete in anything. On the other hand, you may aspire to be a celebrated star.
Like swimming, like playing tennis, there are people writing at all levels. If you just want to amuse yourself writing the weekends, just keep on keeping on. If you want to bash out a novel, you need no more advice than to keep on keeping on.
But if you dream of making something original and beautiful and true, if you imagine seeing your book reviewed, or in the window of a book store, you're in the same position as the ambitious swimmer—you've got a lot of training to do, a lot of muscles to build, a lot of habits to start establishing right now, today.
Okay, where to begin.
Oh yes. You smug fucking twat.
The first line gave me high hopes for the wrap-up. One of the things I love about NaNo is that it does genuinely good work to demistify writing, to challenge the destructive, classist myth that it's something only a Very Special Sort of Person can do.
But its okay! Because Peter Carey doesn't think that only Special People can write, just that only special people can write “at the highest levels”. Which means, of course, the level that he, personally writes at.
If you know what these good writing habits are, there's nothing more I can give you. Perhaps you know what I'm going to tell you—you have to write regularly, every day. You have to treat this as the single most important part of your life. You do not need anything as fancy as inspiration, just this steady habit of writing regularly even when you're sick or sad or dull. Nothing must stop you, not even your beloved children. If you have kids you do what Toni Morrison did—write in the hours before they wake. If you wish to be a like the champion who swims for four hours every day of the year, you will need extraordinary will. You either have this or you don't, but you won't know unless you try .
Notice the slippery slope here:
Writing is easy, it's something anybody can do.
Oh but writing well requires hard work.
Oh and writing really well requires a level of hard work and dedication that only special, special people have. And you either have it or you don't. It's utterly inborn, you can't change it or do anything about it. Either you're one of the Elect or you aren't. By the way, Peter Carey is part of the Elect.
This guy just emailed me to tell me I am not as special as he is and he expects me to find it inspiring. Wanker.
Oh by the way, if you think your writing is more important than your kids, that doesn't make you a serious writer, it makes you a fucking shitty parent. And if you want to do something important and beautiful and true then, well maybe I'm old fashioned but I actually think raising your kids properly is every bit as valuable as winning the Booker.
Let's say you (quietly, secretly) want to be a genius. Then you must teach yourself to be self-critical. Trust me—your own uncertain opinions are worth one hundred times more than the judgments of your friends. Your friends love you and are may be very smart. But they cannot imagine what you have not yet imagined. So don't show them stuff you fear may not be right.
No, if you quietly, secretly want to be a genius, go the fuck away and grow the fuck up. Wanting to be a genius is a sure sign that you aren't one.
As for the final piece of advice “don't show them stuff you fear may not be right” - okay I'm going to use an appeal to authority here. I apologise. I have a friend from my university days who has, in fact, gone on to be an extremely successful children's author (although I suspect that this is what Mr Carey would consider writing at a “low level”). She has a tendency to be extremely self-effacing about her work, so much so that she only made it to print at all because a friend of hers stole the first three chapters of her book and showed them to her publisher. If she hadn't show nher friends “stuff she feared may not be right” she'd never have had anything published at all, and the world would have been denied some genuinely excellent novels.
On a less anecdotal, more general level, does Mr Carey really think that your average wannabe-novelist needs more of an excuse to avoid showing their work to people? Does he really think that what new writers need to be told is “remember, if your book isn't objectively perfect you should never show it to anybody because then you might suffer rejection.”
Seriously Pete, I get that you're insecure. That's screamingly obvious from the way you're jumping up and down to tell me how serious and awesome and dedicated you are. But I don't actually give a fuck.
If you feel at all unhappy with your work, there is a good reason for it. Trust your judgment. Write the draft again, and again. This is the strength you must build—to work alone, in solitude, and write and rewrite and rewrite. Even when you finally succeed in making the original work you wished, you will still live with doubt and uncertainty. All writers learn to live with this. In this way you and I feel exactly the same about our work today.
If you ever read one of my books I hope you'll think it looks so easy. In fact, I wrote those chapters 20 times over, and over, and over, and that if you want to write at a good level, you'll have to do that too.
And if you don't, you're not a serious writer. If you only rewrite every chapter nineteen times you're writing at a fundamentally lower level that Peter Carey. You should feel bad about yourself. But of course you should feel better about yourself than those poor schmucks who only rewrote seventeen times. Not that there's anything wrong with them. They're just at a lower level than you.
Aren't value judgements great.
That is the first half of the good habits you must develop.Okay, remember when I said that the whole “writers are special” thing was amongst other things, classist? This is why: “if you wish to watch TV, you do not want to be a serious writer.”
Here's the second half.
First, turn off your television. The television is your enemy. It will stop you doing what you wish to do. If you wish to watch TV, you do not want to be a serious writer, which is fine.
But if you do pull that plug you've just created time for that exercise which is going to build up your writing muscles like nothing else. It's called reading. Perhaps you are already reading good books for several hours a day, in which case you don't need me to preach at you. Forgive me. I only mention this because I have met an extraordinary number of beginners who don't think they need to read anything too much.
After all what could you possibly learn about a culture from its single most significant cultural outlet. What could possibly be on TV? Just a bunch of stupid shows for stupid poor people. Proper writers don't watch television, only horrible people who drink lager and eat crisps watch television. Those people can't be writers. Those people are too busy getting ASBOs and being single parents and scrounging off benefits. But it's okay, because those people aren't important enough to read my books anyway. I only write serious books for serious people.
Fuck you.
Mark Haddon, who I'm sure I don't need to remind you (but might need to remind Mr Carey, who might unfortunately overlook lesser writers) wrote The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time said that he chose to write the book in the style of a murder mystery because that was the style of book his protagonist would have read. It was a notion he said he'd got from Jane Austen, who again wrote about people in precisely the medium that those people would have been most familiar with.
Real people watch television. If you think you can write something beautiful and true when you knowingly, deliberately and with an air of smug self-satisfaction cut yourself off from one of the most significant features in the lives of ordinary people then you are – not to put too fine a point on it – a moron. A stuck up moron.
It's a cheap shot I know, but I seem to recall that four hundred years ago the primary means of entertainment for the common man was a little thing called “theatre” and that a gentleman by the name of Shakespeare who I understand is quite famous did a lot of interesting work in that medium. But perhaps his work would have been better if he'd ignored popular entertainment and focused on reading books by dead people. In Latin.
I don't doubt these people enjoy their writing, and perhaps they will even get to publish something. But you can not play the top game without reading every day. There are so many extraordinary books waiting for you, some writing by living writers, the majority by those a long time dead. This is not because writers used to be better than they are now, but because a lot of generations have come before us and we would be crazy not to know what miracles they achievedSorry to bang on about this, but seriously Pete, why is it “crazy” not to read books written five hundred years ago in foreign languages but completely sensible to ignore an entire fucking artistic medium.
Would it, by any chance, have anything to do with the antiquated, elitist mentality that the merits of a work of fiction are in inverse proportion to its accessibility? Would it have anything to do with the fact that reading books written by dead people in dead languages makes you feel cool and special, while watching TV shows that might have been written by anybody makes you feel ordinary? Might it be that actually choosing your reading list based on the idea that old = good makes you not only a wanker, but a culturally moribund wanker.
For every person I have met who reads classic literature because they love it, I have met a dozen who read it because they think it makes them look smart. Funnily enough, a lot of the latter sorts tend to be wannabe writers.
Some of the great books are about people with lives just like you. Some will have characters you can 'identify' with, but some of the very greatest will tell stories you could never have imagined, were written in languages you cannot speak, and tell the stories of people like none we have ever known.
And they will tell them against the background of a cultural context I cannot access, and which I can only hope to misunderstand and oversimplify. If they are told in a language I cannot speak, then I can read them only in translation, in which case I am already at a remove from the text and would be better placed looking at something that is more directly accessible.
Oh, and to belabour the point a little more: you know what else I can find a lot of in languages I don't speak, telling stories I have never imagined about people like none I have ever known? Television shows.
And if you think you need to read books by dead people to hear stories you've never imagined, it's because you're a small minded little prick who's forgotten that there's a world past the end if your nose. Go watch a Bollywood movie – again I know it's painful, I know it's a lower level than you're used to, but it ticks all the boxes you're asking for. Language you don't speak? Check. Stories of people like none you've ever known. Check. Hell watch Anime. Listen to some fucking rap.
Or when you talk about “great stories” you could “never have imagined” are you only talking about books by dead white men?
Now you've killed the TV, you should invest in a very good dictionary.
I know it is a major drag to stop reading and look up a word in a dictionary, but it is less of a drag than continuing to read not knowing what the story really means. No-one wants to do it. I never want to do it, but it is always worth the trouble. In my own case I often write the new word down, not because I am stupid, but because it helps me remember it.
Okay, back up a fucking second.
First off. Do you seriously stop reading a book to look up a word in a dictionary? You fucking prescriptivist moron. Dictionaries don't define words, context defines words. I know I've already played the Shakespeare card but guess what, he made up words.
Secondly if you equate “knowing the dictionary definitions of words” with “knowing what a story really means” then you are such a fucking idiot I can barely believe I am wasting my time complaining about you.
So what books should you read if your greatest aim is to lift your game?.
Clearly "Goose Bumps" is not going to help you in your ambitions, but where to start, where to continue the adventure you're already on?
I'd suggest a wonderful new book by Francine Prose, "Reading Like a Writer."
Go buy this now. You may already be a disciplined, talented original writer but you will not be sorry to read this for two hours tomorrow.
Firstly, “Goosebumps”? Does he think we are fucking twelve. If he does, does he think this is a remotely acceptable way to speak to a twelve year old? Or to anybody?
You smug fucking twat.
Secondly, you've just spent the past however much of my time telling me that there are “stories I never could have imagined” out there and what do you tell me my first step should be? One of those fucking awful self-help style books that get sold by the millions to wannabe-novelists (okay, I should add that I've not read “Reading Like a Writer” because, well, I don't like those sorts of books and the title alone makes me want to punch people)? Seriously? Couldn't you think of one of those stories I could never imagine? One single work of fiction that had actually fucking meant something to you, instead of being a stepping stone on your personal path to stardom?
If being a writer means buying into your smug, patronising, self-aggrandizing bullshit, Mr Carey, then not only do I have no desire to be one I have no desire to interact with anybody who does. This pathetic pile of insecure self-justifying shit doesn't just make me want to give up on writing, it makes me want to give up on reading because there is no way on God's green earth I want to be part of this man's narcissistic delusions.
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More anecdotal evidence for the pile: I wrote a fucking PhD thesis, and for much of the time I was writing it I had the TV on in the background. Usually tuned to something like Jeremy Kyle or Judge Judy or something similarly exploitative and crass. I know science writing isn't the same as writing Great Literature, but I would submit that it requires precisely the same sort of levels of concentration. Some people can maintain that concentration whilst listening to the TV in the background, some can't.
Another word beginning with "w" springs to mind.
I, too, thought the "turn off the TV" was going to be telling us that of course we all watch TV, but sometimes you need to turn it off to concentrate. Who knew that it's actually important to cut ourselves off from all those stories people are telling so we can concentrate on all those stories people told back then that are less accessible because the context is lost.
It reminds me of a line on Malcolm in the Middle (a TV show I wrote tie-in books for, which would probably put me so far below this guy it's not even worth mentioning!) where Malcolm's friend says his parents told him TV makes you stupid. Malcolm replies, "No, TV makes you normal."
Also, I'm sure there's plenty of up and coming writers who learned plenty from Goosebumps and were inspired by them, albeit when they were younger. Just like people are inspired by crappy movies and good movies and good tv shows and bad tv shows. Surely we all know how Star Wars was inspired by the silly serials George Lucas loved as a kid (not that I'm suggesting SW or any SW books would possibly be considered serious writing by Carey!).
Really, I suspect truly creative writers would never make the kind of distinctions about stories this guy's making here. There's a lot of "classic" lit I really like (and yeah, I did feel rewarded when I went to an art show and saw a painting I recognized as illustrating something from the Decameron because I happened to be reading it at the time--but it's not a literary reward, it's a smartypants one), but I'd be more likely to go on and on at how impressed I am by the myth created in the Curse of the Blair Witch/The Blair Witch Project--another great work inspired by Medium Carey doesn't think writers should be watching (blended with the kind of oral folklore that probably doesn't count either).
Excellent, Dan! A good deal ruder than anything I would ever say, granted,but I laughed. Somehow, I get the impression I would never laugh at anything Carey ever wrote.
Also, I think he is quite wrong about not showing things you know to be imperfect to your friends. I am so very, very grateful to my advance readers. They help me to achieve some level of objectivity about my work - I don't always *know* why something seems shaky, and they can help me to see what needs changing. It really isn't possible to be objective about one's own work! What's more, their encouragement and support have helped me to keep writing. The end of my novel is now in sight, and my four beta readers - especially the three who have given me steady and intelligent feedback and *encouragement* - have helped me to get as far as I have. I couldn't have done it without them.
I guess that makes me a lower-level writer than Peter Carey. Of course, I do "want to be a genius" and to make something true and beautiful, but (1) nobody writes a book alone, I don't think; and (2)though I've moved a long, long way away from it, I was partially inspired to write by a TV show!
I'm a little offended at him calling out Goosebumps! I won my first ever writing contest (third place) in Disney Adventures Magazine "Finish the Goosebumps Story" contest. It was one of the first positive responses to my writing I ever got! Screw you, dude, Goosebumps rocks. :-)
And most writing teachers tell you to show your work to EVERYONE, as many people as are willing to read it. Various responses and views are the most important thing to a new, aspiring writer. I really hope people don't listen to that advice; it's beyond dumb.
Don't worry. He still thinks its *okay* for you to write Malcom in the Middle tie-in novels. You might even enjoy it. In fact some of his best *friends*...
The Goosebumps thing is particularly symptomatic I think, because I'm pretty sure Goosebumps and the Point line did more for child literacy than any six government initiatives you'd care to name.
I can't really write (anything) while there's words in the same language around - TV, music, radio... I start writing down what I'm hearing. Oddly it doesn't seem to happen with a different language. Yes, I realise that makes me, too, sound like a pretentious smug git.
And surely you can get the same pleasure-of-recognition from, say, references to Godfather or The Simpsons as from references to Wuthering Heights?
Hear, hear. I remember the preface to one of Tolkien's books (I thought it was Roverandom, but I can't find it in there) where he talks about sitting down to write in the afternoon, with the thought that he had to do this to support his children, who were at that moment playing outside. 'Of course," he continued, "I went out to play."
I wonder if Carey evaluates all fiction according to some canon and based on genre, in the style of early 20th century literary criticism. So that, for example Rabelais is a work of great literature, but books by Terry Pratchett cannot be, because genre only applies to more modern works and fantasy humour is lower writing in any case, if done by contemporaries.
I'm pretty sure William Gibson was on LSD for most of the time that he was writing Neuromancer.
I've read a lot of Burroughs, and I've read even more Philip K Dick. You could tell when they were on something. I've never had the impression that Gibson was high when writing the Sprawl trilogy. It's all a bit too logical and the cause-and-effect are a bit too visible - they're too clearly the product of an ordered mind working according to a plan.
I was just working off an impression I got from "No Maps for These Territories." The documentary makers made it seem like the drugs were integral, my mistake.
Stephen King said something similar about TV in his On Writing (which, despite recent evidence is otherwise pretty good), I think because he felt it sucks up way too much of your time (it's been a couple years since I read it).
Holly Lisle has also said something about not watching TV on her website, but I think that may've been just part of her explanation of how she manages to write full time and raise a family at the same time.
On the other hand, the main character of Melina Marchetta's Saving Francesca (review pending) is a Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan. Now I could be wrong, but I take this to mean that Melina Marchetta has more than a passing acquaintance with Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Let me just make this perfectly clear. If my deductions are correct, that means that Melina freaking Marchetta watches TV, and probably even for pleasure.
Any further arguments that you can't be a “serious writer” if you watch TV will be summarily thrown out of court.
I'd never heard of this site or your articles before stumbling in from a Deathly Hallows spork...and then I kept reading for a good twenty articles last night, mostly because I find I agree with quite a lot you say.
I must confess though, I like reading those "awful self-help style books" not so much for any advice, but simply because I enjoy reading them. Or sometimes for the exercises because I can't consider myself anything but a 'student' writer. I still think like a student. But the books are--well, actually, now that I think about it, aren't fun so much anymore because I've outgrown them mostly, but I never did read them to "Learn To Write"
We generally don't object to people commenting on old articles (we're a stubborn lot around here, so it's not like our opinions change much).
I absolutely see the appeal of "How To Write X" type books, if only because they tend to be handy collections of conventions and tropes, so can be fun in roughly the same way TVTropes is fun.
But yeah, I really don't think they're the way to become a successful novelist.
Of course one can criticize such books precisely on that basis: that they prompt people to write whether they can write well or not and that they make people believe they can write well when they can't. But I don't really see it as a big problem if lots of bad writers write lots of bad stuff, as long as they don't get published / produced.